Saturday, August 20, 2011

Chernobyl VS Fukushima - 60 Minutes Video & Interview with a Chernobyl Worker

Just ran across this video. It was run on Australia's version of 60 minutes. Good to know there's somebody out there feeling like Fukushima is still worth paying attention to. Please watch this. For the health of our families, we better pay attention too, especially given the fact that the FDA is saying we can source food from around there...

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Just watch below if it comes up for you. You'll need to X the commercial , then use the scroll bar on the bottom of the frame to move the frame to the middle and then move the top scroll bar a little bit down to get to a good spot to watch it.

Watching the above video and reading the article below from the San Francisco Chronicle really solidified for me the notion that the FDA should not be giving the green light for food companies to source food for our consumption from Japan.

Some companies have the good sense to say no thank you even though the FDA has said it is okay.

Unfortunately some big companies like Kellogg's, General Mills, and PepsiCo, the big 3 that seem to own almost everything in our supermarkets, from Gatorade to Rice Krispies, from Rice-A-Roni to Cheerios, from Nature Valley Granola Bars to Betty Crocker Products to Doritos, Eggos, Progresso Soup, and many, many, more products (check out their websites for their full product lines if you are interested to know), are all currently sourcing from there. They are sourcing raw ingredients, basic ingredients, that then get mixed into our food supply.

What are these things that they are sourcing? I have no idea. They can't tell me. They have said they source raw ingredients from there, anything more they can't tell me. It's proprietary information. One company even told me that even their own managers don't know where specific ingredients are coming from. Not sure why all the secrecy? Seems to me our food supply chain should be transparent, not some highly guarded secret.

In short, you and I don't know if the raw ingredients coming out of Japan is the rice in Rice Krispies, the sugar in Gatorade, the oats in Cheerios, the flavorings in Rice-A-Roni, or the spices in Quaker apples and cinnamon hot cereal, we just don't know because they won't tell us and because our currently labeling laws don't require them to tell us (see the other blog on crazy labels).

As I side note, did you know medicines are also being produced around that area as well? I picked up some Benadryl the other day at target. It was the premeasured spoon version. I flipped over the box and it said made in Japan. I called the company and told them I was concerned about this. They told me not to worry, it was far enough away from Fukushima. I said give me the name of the city and I'll make that decision. They said they didn't know the name of the town which was interesting to me. On the one hand they said it was far enough away, on the other hand they didn't know the name of the city where it was being made.

I did end up getting a call back on that. I was told it was being made at a plant in Toyama, Japan. While on the opposite coast from Fukushima, it is only approximately 160 miles away according to my calculations. The soil and water supplies are contaminated for hundreds and hundreds of miles away according to some experts. How can it be safe to make anything at that plant only 160 miles away? In my mind there's a chance of contamination somehow in either the making of the product or even in transporting the product from one area to another. Again the question I keep asking myself over and over...why are we risking it?? How about taking that manufacturing job to another plant located somewhere else in the world? Is there something wrong with that idea?

The same company, McNeil Consumer Healthcare, owns Zertec (parent company Johnson and Johnson). Don't know if Zertec is being made there too? I think there might be other drugs being manufactured in Japan as the FDA talks about medicines in their statement, I just don't know what they are nor do I know what cities they are being processed in.

I also wonder about ingredients for shampoos, makeup, lotions, toothpaste, sunscreens, baby care products, are any of those coming from Japan? While these are all not things that we ingest directly, they are things that we put on skin (or in our mouth in the case of toothpaste) that can get absorbed into our body. I'm not an expert on cancer causing materials by any stretch of the imagination, so I have no idea if it would matter health wise if cancer causing chemicals were mixed in and then we spread it on our skin or the skin of our families. Would that potentially be cancer causing? I don't know but it did cross my mind.

To be fair to General Mills, PepsiCo, and Kellogg's, and McNeil Healthcare, there are probably other large companies that are also sourcing from Japan as well. However, the companies mentioned here are ones where I have spoken with a customer representative personally about their sourcing.

In case you are curious to know, General Mills, PepsiCo, and Kellogg's also all get ingredients from China. Again, they won't disclose where those ingredients ultimately end up. Instead they say they can't tell me, that's proprietary information (see blog on Corporate Responses).

Chernobyl cleanup survivor's message for Japan:
'Run away as quickly as possible'

Dana Kennedy, AOL News, March 22, 2011
Pictures published courtesy of Natalia Manzurova as part of this original article located at

Natalia Manzurova, one of the few survivors among those directly involved in the long cleanup of Chernobyl, was a 35-year-old engineer at a nuclear plant in Ozersk, Russia, in April 1986 when she and 13 other scientists were told to report to the wrecked, burning plant in the northern Ukraine.

It was just four days after the world's biggest nuclear disaster spewed enormous amounts of radiation into the atmosphere and forced the evacuation of 100,000 people.

Manzurova and her colleagues were among the roughly 800,000 "cleaners" or "liquidators" in charge of the removal and burial of all the contamination in what's still called the dead zone.

Natalia Manzurova, shown here in 1988 in the "dead zone" of the Pripyat, is one of the relatively few survivors among those directly involved in the cleanup of Chernobyl.
She spent 4 1/2 years helping clean the abandoned town of Pripyat, which was less than two miles from the Chernobyl reactors. The plant workers lived there before they were abruptly evacuated.

Manzurova, now 59 and an advocate for radiation victims worldwide, has the "Chernobyl necklace" -- a scar on her throat from the removal of her thyroid -- and myriad health problems. But unlike the rest of her team members, who she said have all died from the results of radiation poisoning, and many other liquidators, she's alive.

AOL News spoke with Manzurova about the nuclear disaster in Japan with the help of a translator on the telephone Monday from Vermont. Manzurova, who still lives in Ozersk, was beginning a one-week informational tour of the U.S. organized by the Beyond Nuclear watchdog group.

AOL News: What was your first reaction when you heard about Fukushima?
Manzurova: It felt like déjà vu. I felt so worried for the people of Japan and the children especially. I know the experience that awaits them.

But experts say Fukushima is not as bad as Chernobyl.
Every nuclear accident is different, and the impact cannot be truly measured for years. The government does not always tell the truth. Many will never return to their homes. Their lives will be divided into two parts: before and after Fukushima. They'll worry about their health and their children's health. The government will probably say there was not that much radiation and that it didn't harm them. And the government will probably not compensate them for all that they've lost. What they lost can't be calculated.

What message do you have for Japan?
Run away as quickly as possible. Don't wait. Save yourself and don't rely on the government because the government lies. They don't want you to know the truth because the nuclear industry is so powerful.

Natalia Manzurova, now 59, has suffered a variety of ailments since she worked at Chernobyl, but she says she is the only member of her team still alive.
When you were called to go to Chernobyl, did you know how bad it was there?
I had no idea and never knew the true scope until much later. It was all covered in secrecy. I went there as a professional because I was told to -- but if I was asked to liquidate such an accident today, I'd never agree. The sacrifices the Fukushima workers are making are too high because the nuclear industry was developed in such a way that the executives don't hold themselves accountable to the human beings who have to clean up a disaster. It's like nuclear slavery.

What was your first impression of Chernobyl?
It was like a war zone where a neutron bomb had gone off. I always felt I was in the middle of a war where the enemy was invisible. All the houses and buildings were intact with all the furniture, but there wasn't a single person left. Just deep silence everywhere. Sometimes I felt I was the only person alive on a strange planet. There are really no words to describe it.

What did your work as a liquidator entail?
First, we measured radiation levels and got vegetation samples to see how high the contamination was. Then bulldozers dug holes in the ground and we buried everything -- houses, animals, everything. There were some wild animals that were still alive, and we had to kill them and put them in the holes.

Were any pets left in the houses?
The people had only a few hours to leave, and they weren't allowed to take their dogs or cats with them. The radiation stays in animals' fur and they can't be cleaned, so they had to be abandoned. That's why people were crying when they left. All the animals left behind in the houses were like dried-out mummies. But we found one dog that was still alive.

Where did you find the dog and how did he survive?
We moved into a former kindergarten to use as a laboratory and we found her lying in one of the children's cots there. Her legs were all burned from the radiation and she was half blind. Her eyes were all clouded from the radiation. She was slowly dying.

Were you able to rescue her?
No. Right after we moved in, she disappeared. And this is the amazing part. A month later we found her in the children's ward of the (abandoned) hospital. She was dead. She was lying in a child's bed, the same size bed we found her in the kindergarten. Later we found out that she loved children very much and was always around them.

How did working in the dead zone begin to affect your health?
I started to feel as if I had the flu. I would get a high temperature and start to shiver. What happens during first contact with radiation is that your good flora is depleted and the bad flora starts to flourish. I suddenly wanted to sleep all the time and eat a lot. It was the organism getting all the energy out.

How much radiation were you subjected to?
We were never told. We wore dosimeters which measured radiation and we submitted them to the bosses, but they never gave us the results.

But didn't you realize the danger and want to leave?
Yes, I knew the danger. All sorts of things happened. One colleague stepped into a rainwater pool and the soles of his feet burned off inside his boots. But I felt it was my duty to stay. I was like a firefighter. Imagine if your house was burning and the firemen came and then left because they thought it was too dangerous.

When did you discover the thyroid tumor?
They found it during a routine medical inspection after I had worked there several years. It turned out to be benign. I don't know when it started to develop. I had an operation to remove half the thyroid gland. The tumor grew back, and last year I had the other half removed. I live on (thyroid) hormones now.

Why did you go back to Chernobyl after getting a thyroid tumor?
Right around the time of my operation, the government passed a law saying the liquidators had to work for exactly 4 1/2 years to get our pension and retire. If you left even one day early, you would not get any benefits.

Really? That seems beyond cruel.
It's why the nuclear industry is dangerous. They want to deny the dangers. They kept changing the law about what benefits we'd get because if they admitted how much we were affected, it would look bad for the industry. Now we hardly get any benefits.

Did your health worsen after you finally finished work at Chernobyl?
I was basically disabled at 43. I was having fits similar to epileptic fits. My blood pressure was sky high. It was hard to work for more than six months a year. The doctors didn't know what to do with me. They wanted to put me in a psychiatric ward and call me crazy. Finally they admitted it was because of the radiation.

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